2020-05-16T22:32:29ZFluxBBhttp://forum.jonas.tuxfamily.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=15938Once the collar is working and your dog is responding well, you no longer need to be the 'bad guy' in the training process.]]>http://forum.jonas.tuxfamily.org/forum/profile.php?id=635162020-05-16T22:32:29Zhttp://forum.jonas.tuxfamily.org/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=18570#p18570